tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post5473903422281053224..comments2024-03-20T04:26:10.510-07:00Comments on Married to Medicine: The Top Six LEAST Logical Anti-Vaxx ArgumentsElleMurahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-49180361406510453712013-11-30T09:47:44.536-08:002013-11-30T09:47:44.536-08:00Please see the 20-30 links to peer-reviewed scienc...Please see the 20-30 links to peer-reviewed science in the body of and comments following my first blog entry on this topic. Please also note that the current whooping cough vaccine is indeed problematic, as noted in the body of this blog entry. It's still highly effective though especially at protecting infants, who face by far the highest mortality rates when they contract whooping cough. Please also note that the one study you cite to is "not available on this site."ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-22116946036814503412013-11-30T09:42:09.110-08:002013-11-30T09:42:09.110-08:00Please see my first blog entry for links to and di...Please see my first blog entry for links to and discussions on this topic. It's not that they're not profitable; it's that they're not profitable as profitable as other things that pharm companies are investing in, and they're not profitable to individual physicians administering vaccines because insurance companies don't reimburse much for them. Regardless, it is insurance companies who pay for vaccines and as I note above, they would be the first to stop paying if there was any reasonable argument that they could.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-72309810424510092272013-11-30T09:39:47.261-08:002013-11-30T09:39:47.261-08:00I agree, in an ideal world everything would be pub...I agree, in an ideal world everything would be publicly available and free. It's worth noting that it all of these sources *are* available at medical school libraries; just not on the internet. With research funding dwindling and government cuts to boot, it is not likely that all resources will be made freely available on the internet any time soon. I also have to note that a lot of practitioner-intended resources are not very readable to laypeople, myself included; medicine is a profession, and like any other profession it cannot be mastered without training.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-3518636029755343102013-11-30T09:35:09.898-08:002013-11-30T09:35:09.898-08:00Anonymous, respectfully, you have no idea what you...Anonymous, respectfully, you have no idea what you're talking about. Children and adults with immuno-suppressive illnesses and/or conditions cannot be vaccinated themselves and are at a much higher mortality risk from vaccine-preventable and other illnesses. They have far more to fear from the unvaccinated than from the recently vaccinated. There are plenty of sources and physicians who speak to this point in the body and comments of my first blog entry.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-57657844098408553312013-11-30T09:08:45.806-08:002013-11-30T09:08:45.806-08:00Re; "They are the most vulnerable to diseases...Re; "They are the most vulnerable to diseases spread by unvaccinated children and un or under-vaccinated adults. Just ask any pediatric oncologist"<br /><br />I am so confused, an oncologist will tell AYONE WHO'S RECENTLY BEEN VACCINATED to stay far away from their patients. <br /><br />Maybe you should have consulted your doctor husband with this statement before making yourself look foolish. Point taken though! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-81307570298563896422013-11-30T09:01:59.449-08:002013-11-30T09:01:59.449-08:00Oh and one more thing, it was a nice try saying th...Oh and one more thing, it was a nice try saying that I based my claim on ONE photo. Its wasn't a bad day, it wasn't an "in between" stop lying to yourself. It looks like you love taking lots of photos. Look at all his infant photos and you will see he's been suffering from brain strokes since infancy. The ONLY reason a mouth would droop like it is in all his photos (uneven smile) is100% caused by a stroke. I am shocked that your "dr" husband doesn't know this. It's common knowledge within the medical community. But anyhow, like I said I don't care at this point if you refuse to do your due diligence as a mother to protect your kids. You have all the info you need, I provided it to you on a silver platter. But in case you need it all in once simple easy to watch format: http://www.executivereasoning.com/health/vac/med_myst_solved.html <br /><br />When you finally see that your son IS stroking in his brain my hope (again) is that you will come here like promised and revise. Even an apology would be nice for the hard work people like myself and others who have the knowledge you clearly do not have, have done. <br /><br />I wont hold my breath. But if he's three right now, then I will come back in a year or a bit to make sure you held up your end of the deal. He WILL stroke out and it's always only a matter of time before his brain, body and immune system will give up. Heaven forbid. :(Chelsea Renenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-21985876729761673642013-11-30T08:51:32.147-08:002013-11-30T08:51:32.147-08:00Okay, I was hopeful that you would take an active ...Okay, I was hopeful that you would take an active approach to keeping your children safe. You clearly did not watch any of the presentations this brilliant doctor (way higher medical training and education than your whole family put together) because if you had you wouldn't say he's a quack. You can't deny his work no matter how much you wish you could. I am glad that at least you will reconsider AFTER you see your son suffers yet another stroke to his brain...too bad it can't be now before you allow him further injuries but anyhow, I really don't care about you or your husband. I do however care about innocent children being harmed by the hands of their doctor (in this case you and your husband) but hey, when it's too late don't come crying. Because unfort it's almost always the case- provax~child gets unjured~becomes educated~stops vaccinating~tries to warn others~finds it impossible to convince the mindset of the mindless! You have the chance to make a difference, being a lawyer and having family with a medical background you could really do something good for once. But, if you do a quick google search at the "quack site" and see his name and base your opinion on that, then it speaks volume about your priorities. You have the proof. Up to you now to open your eyes before its too late. You are welcome. Good luck.Chelsea Renenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-11173459311443297792013-11-30T07:58:43.736-08:002013-11-30T07:58:43.736-08:00Thank you for your efforts and your detail.
A poi...Thank you for your efforts and your detail.<br /><br />A point from your previous post lamenting that most of the “good” research is beyond paywalls at the major and minor peer-reviewed journals.<br /><br />A suggestion would be to contact them and recommend that, in the interest of public health, that they place papers about vaccines in front of their paywall. Of course papers that are current could be embargoed to subscribers for some period of time.<br /><br />Someone could then link to all of the “good” papers on one (or more) websites, and we google bomb the heck out of them to bring them up in the rankings.<br /><br />Just a thought.<br /><br />Loyola 94noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-67082797132753732012013-11-30T07:55:09.966-08:002013-11-30T07:55:09.966-08:00Dr. M:
Not sure who all of you are believing sayi...Dr. M:<br /><br />Not sure who all of you are believing saying vaccinations are not profitable. Last year the flu shot made 1.2 billion dollars, this year with a new 4 in 1 flu vaccine the profits are projected to be 3.7 BILLION!!!. Vaccines are money makers, maybe not for the docs giving them but for the drug companies they are big business.<br /><br />When fear mongering of health and disease meets profit margins we are now going down a questionable road. Research funded by the ones making the money is very questionable. Big Pharma is the biggest scam we have ever seen in medicine. I wish we lived in the days where medical treatment and advice were given only with the best interests of the patient in mind, now everyone worries most about the bottom line and says the patient will be fine. Give them some useless and un-needed crap just make sure I get my kickback.<br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/19/us-flu-vaccines-idUSBRE98I0M720130919Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-22285735580847413882013-11-30T07:22:23.173-08:002013-11-30T07:22:23.173-08:00Elle, I would like to retitle your blog: Married...Elle, I would like to retitle your blog: Married to medicine, should be changed to indoctrinated by the AMA second hand. You have little to no formal education in health, you trust what your husband tells you and run with it. The problem lies in him being indoctrinated at school and blindly following. The reason I say this, is that many studies have been published on how Vaccines do not work very well. There are some in the past that were very necessary (small pox) and some that are needed in 3rd world countries that have poor sanitation. You state that whooping cough is a needed vaccine. I may suggest that you choose a different vaccine to purge your indoctrination information. Whooping cough is one of the most ineffective vaccines ever utilized. This is not just an opinion this is factual information. See links to government published articles (NIH) also journal of new england medicine. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1200850<br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24216286<br />These are very recent articles Nov. 2012 and Nov. 2013. I can find many more.<br />I will give you the conclusion because you probably won't read the research from these epidemiologist researchers.<br />Conclusion: Despite high levels of vaccination coverage, pertussis circulation cannot be controlled at all. The results question the efficacy of the present immunization programmes.<br /><br />When several epidemiologist researchers are saying that whooping cough vaccine offers no protection, that is when you don't vaccinate. These people are the specialists in the field, not just regular indocrinated M.D's that think they know everything these are the medical professionals that prove or disprove things through research.<br />You may try to come back with some seemingly smart comeback from some chair of medicine of some university or similar quoted statement but I have quoted the current experts in the industry doing the current research in the field.<br />I would challenge you to look at both sides of the issue and learn how to review research without bias. If you look at both sides of the issue you will be far ahead of most pediatricians who don't even acknowledge dangers of vaccines. <br />I recently went to help my friend who is a cardiothoracic surgeon and family practice M.D. We went to a business that requested the swine flu vaccine. We gave all the employees the vaccine and then i turned to the M.D. and said your next. His response was "HELL NO" I am not putting that SH-- it my body, it has not been properly tested, evaluated and is dangerous.<br />In conclusion: You must wade through the research to educate yourself as to what vaccines you should have and not have. The AMA docs will tell you to get every vaccine despite research saying it is ineffective, so we must educate ourselves and make our own judgement calls on it, but to blindly follow or hope all vaccines are required is probably the greater danger we face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-69824680463015957892013-11-30T06:09:42.989-08:002013-11-30T06:09:42.989-08:00And last, I'll note that even if there was a r...And last, I'll note that even if there was a risk in vaccination, you're ignoring the risk in remaining unvaccinated. Perhaps you don't think that vaccines work. If that's the case, I refer you to all the science linked to in my original blog entry and all of the discussions in the lengthy comments section that follows it. Please see especially the links on the lack of profitability of vaccines.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-76729404702481657152013-11-30T05:59:33.149-08:002013-11-30T05:59:33.149-08:00But I'll tell you what: If when my son receiv...But I'll tell you what: If when my son receives future vaccinations, he goes "cross-eyed" and "droopy-mouthed," I'll reconsider. If that happens, I will update the comments section here accordingly.<br /><br />You should know though, that he was never cross-eyed or droopy mouthed. It was hard to get a shot of all 4 of us looking at the camera and smiling at the same time, and I think he was in-between here. This photo was taken last month when he was already 3, and his challenging phase was months 15-27. There was nothing wrong with him at the time of this photo and other than typical challenging toddler behavior, there never was. ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-69010344611582513002013-11-30T05:12:58.717-08:002013-11-30T05:12:58.717-08:00Mel, aggressive isn't the word. Crazy is. My s...Mel, aggressive isn't the word. Crazy is. My son is not autistic, and if you'll do some research on the guy you two have decided to trust more than the consensus of every legitimate health organization in the world, you'll see he's a complete quack. The types who follow personalities like his are never convinced by science or reason, so I don't expect to convince either of you. I am, however, going to close the comments to this post. The purpose of this post is not to discuss the science behind vaccines; my original post did that and the comments were open for a month and are quite extensive. I don't have time this during the holidays for a repeat, especially where it would mainly be a lengthy conversation between me and "Chelsea."ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-56375098325949481432013-11-30T05:06:49.002-08:002013-11-30T05:06:49.002-08:00Again Chelsea, your beloved Andrew Moulden is a co...Again Chelsea, your beloved Andrew Moulden is a complete quack. You're free to trust him but you certainly haven't given anyone else any reason to.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-30783413538060115692013-11-30T04:55:36.565-08:002013-11-30T04:55:36.565-08:00It won't be me advocating. It will be their i...It won't be me advocating. It will be their in-house counsel, to protect them from law suits. And yes, some children have legitimate medical reasons not to vaccinate. They are the most vulnerable to diseases spread by unvaccinated children and un or under-vaccinated adults. Just ask any pediatric oncologist.ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-66625864468281090482013-11-30T04:34:20.266-08:002013-11-30T04:34:20.266-08:00They are paid... by insurance companies. You said...They are paid... by insurance companies. You said "Our country is ruled by pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and the money that follows them." But insurance companies pay for vaccines. And if you'll take the time to read the comment above and the link in my original entry, you'll see that vaccines are not even that profitable. ElleMurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01585481665526225076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-8142902451818926552013-11-29T17:50:02.367-08:002013-11-29T17:50:02.367-08:00Hmm... this is very interesting.. I had no idea th...Hmm... this is very interesting.. I had no idea that pharmaceutical companies create and distribute their product without being paid to do so. How very noble of them! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-66804624365039152732013-11-29T16:33:29.107-08:002013-11-29T16:33:29.107-08:00Hello Anonymous, you can't show your name? Mus...Hello Anonymous, you can't show your name? Must be easier for you I suppose. You clearly did not chose to educate yourself through the work I presented. Oh well, can't save them all. Her child suffered BRAIN STROKES! It doesn't take a expert to see that. But thankfully it IS an expert that presents the truth that you wish not to look at. If I am right, if Dr Moulden if right (which there is NO denying as much as you wish you could) and her child did suffer from vaccine induced brain damage, wouldn't that be proof that he as essentially poisoned? I know you won't be able to contribute much to this conversation because you have nothing that could possibly refute what this brilliant doctor presents, but I will I am hopefully since this mother is a lawyer, and her family has a medical background and her husband is a new doctor that they will recognize the HUGE responsibility they have to change their thinking, see that we've all been lied to in the name of profit and be proactive in getting this valuable information to the world. I would understand if Dr Dad didn't want to leave medical school- it's a lot of money and time spent however after seeing this science, my hope would be they'd be a little more gentle with their attitude towards parents that have already woken up and chose not to make the same mistakes vaccinating parents have made for 50 yrs. Anonymous is it? lol yes I am aggressive, it stems from ignorant people who think they know something, when in fact they know very little about this topic. I don't apologize. <br /><br />Now, do yourself a favor and look at the science presented right in front of you before replying. There is NO debate. Period!Chelsea Renenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-70417757642073859972013-11-29T14:20:15.411-08:002013-11-29T14:20:15.411-08:00I just want to say thank you for your two posts on...I just want to say thank you for your two posts on vaccines and also give you huge kudos for putting up with some of the most offensive, personal attacks I have ever seen on one of these vaccine threads. I am appalled at the gall shown by some commenters who think they can diagnose your child from a photo (seriously?) and who insist you are poisoning/harming/killing your children. They have no shame and their comments speak volumes about who they are and how they interact with the world. You have more grace than I!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-67993655776746676702013-11-29T13:04:15.392-08:002013-11-29T13:04:15.392-08:00One: the "144 dead girls....32,000 adverse re...One: the "144 dead girls....32,000 adverse reactions" trope is drawn from reports to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). Anyone may report anything to VAERS, and they have done so, including a report that one person became the Incredible Hulk after vaccination Essentially, VAERS is a net that sweeps up everything, and the reorts of adverse effects have then to be evaluated by trained researchers. Voluntary reporting systems are not scientifically rigorous assessments of true risk. They are useful for generating, but not testing, hypotheses.<br /> <br />Someone quoting VAERS reports as fact is betraying either either their naiveté or their anti-science, anti-vaccine bias.<br /><br />Adverse events have been reported following HPV vaccination, but the overwhelming majority of these reactions are minor and largely local injection site reactions (e.g. redness, swelling, pain at injection site). These reactions do include other minor self-limiting reactions such as syncope (fainting episodes), headache, and nausea. In addition to our paper, the CDC has a useful summary of minor to moderate reactions of short duration for both types of HPV vaccines and other vaccines. These are consistent with other vaccinations.<br /><br />Klein et al published "Safety of quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine administered routinely to females" in 2012; the study enrolled almost 190,000 young women "This study did not detect evidence of new safety concerns among females 9 to 26 years of age secondary to vaccination with HPV4". Arnheim-Dahlström et al. published "Autoimmune, neurological, and venous thromboembolic adverse events after immunisation of adolescent girls with quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine in Denmark and Sweden: cohort study"; the study had 997,585 subjects. "This large cohort study found no evidence supporting associations between exposure to qHPV vaccine and autoimmune, neurological, and venous thromboembolic adverse events." <br /><br />Two: "this vaccine which only covers 4 strains of HPV." The implication is that the vaccine is worthless. Yes, Gardasil® covers four strains, types, 6, 11, 16, and 18. Strains 16 and 18 are the most common types linked to cervical cancer, while types 6 and 11 are linked to genital warts. The vaccine has also been shown to reduce infection with some cancer-associated HPV types that are closely related to those in the vaccines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-58210050022506234432013-11-29T13:02:46.055-08:002013-11-29T13:02:46.055-08:00Anonymous #1 went on,
" it is important to ...Anonymous #1 went on, <br /><br />" it is important to do your research and to research credible sources, such as the drug company's actual vaccine inserts"<br /><br />You do know that the vaccine inserts are not scientific documents, correct? You do know how they are developed and approved by the FDA?<br /><br />Oh, you don't?<br /><br />Michael Simpson, a pharmaceutical industry executive, has written a lengthy description at his at his excellent blog Skeptical Raptor, "Vaccine package inserts–debunking the myths". I recommend you study Simpson's explanation.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-16616141394696093432013-11-29T12:12:04.961-08:002013-11-29T12:12:04.961-08:00The same Anonymous went on to write,
"Many ...The same Anonymous went on to write, <br /><br />"Many vaccines are not even necessary. Let's take Hep B for example. My children are at 0% risk of contracting Hep B. My newborn baby was not a sex trade worker or drug addict "<br /><br />I am afraid you have bought into the false idea that Hep B is only spread by IV drug abuse or sexual contact. In fact, according to Parents of Kids with Infectious Diseases (PKIDS), <br /><br />"In household settings, non-sexual transmission of HBV occurs primarily from child to child, and young kids are at highest risk of infection. We’re not sure exactly how transmission occurs, but frequent contact of non-intact skin or mucous membranes with blood-containing secretions including, perhaps, saliva, are the most likely means of transmission. HBV remains infectious at mild temperatures for extended periods and can be found on and transmitted through sharing of inanimate objects such as wash towels or toothbrushes."<br /><br />Many people infected with the Hepatitis B virus are asymptomatic and thus spread the disease unknowingly. Furthermore, the virus is very hardy -- it can survive outside the body for over 7 days. <br /><br />Before universal vaccination was introduced, the mortality from HBV in the US was 5 times higher than Haemophilus influenza type B (HiB) and 10 times greater than measles. <br /><br />The younger a person is when infected with Hepatitis B virus, the greater his or her chance of developing chronic Hepatitis B. Approximately 90% of infected infants will develop chronic infection. The risk goes down as a child gets older. Approximately 25%–50% of children infected between the ages of 1 and 5 years will develop chronic hepatitis. The risk drops to 6%–10% when a person is infected over 5 years of age. <br /><br />Why the birth dose? From 1981 through 1991 the US vaccinated only people with identified risk factors. Predictably, this campaign had an underwhelming effect on HBV infections seen during this time period.<br /><br />In 1991, the US Hep B elimination strategy was reworked to better address the various methods of HBV transmission. In addition to vaccination of high risk groups, the US began universal vaccination of all infants at birth, vaccination of adolescents, and prenatal screening of pregnant women to identify children who would require not only vaccination at birth but also Hep B immunoglobulin (HBIG).<br /><br />Dr. Joseph Albietz wrote in "Why the Universal Hepatitis B Vaccination Isn't Quite Universal", "Since its launch in 1991, the US seen a steady decrease in Hepatitis B infections. Hep B incidence in the US fell from 10.7/100,000 in 1983 to 2.1 per 100,000 in 2004. (25,916 total cases down to 6212 cases). Though it’s true other factors have been contributing to HBV’s decline, most notably the public education campaign aimed at curbing the spread of HIV, this doesn’t account for the pattern of HBV decline across age groups. There has been a 95% drop in HBV in people under 15 years of age, 87% in ages 15-24, 71% from 25-44, and 51% decrease in people over 45 years old. This is precisely what you would expect from a pediatric vaccination campaign." <br /><br />The current vaccine has an excellent safety profile. <br /><br />I think eliminating a chronic disease is overall a good thing. Perhaps you disagree. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-18038434493911062952013-11-29T11:24:11.965-08:002013-11-29T11:24:11.965-08:00To "Anonymous"
"I will tell you, n...To "Anonymous"<br /><br />"I will tell you, no vaccine is 100% safe and no vaccine will give you 100% immunity." This is a true but trivial point. Nothing in life is 100% safe, even staying in bed. It is also true that no vaccine will give you 100% immunity; some vaccines are better than others. On the other hand, having the disease the vaccine protects against may not confer immunity. Take pertussis, for example -- the immunity conferred by having the disease fades rather quickly (less than two decades at most). <br /><br />What this Anonymous is advancing is the "nirvana fallacy" -- rejecting a good and workable solution (in this case, vaccination against disease) because it isn't perfect. That's a failure in logic right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-52228932721495799712013-11-29T09:30:36.413-08:002013-11-29T09:30:36.413-08:00Hello Elle, there are people here who are a bit ag...Hello Elle, there are people here who are a bit aggressive-I suppose that happens when truth you want to share meets frustration of certain people not wanting to listen. From a parent who was PRO vaccine, vaccinated my daughter on schedule to the day without question; I unfortunately learned the hard way that vaccine do and can cause harm. Even the manufactures admit SIDS and autism can be a side affect in the inserts however we are not told by our MD to think for ourselves. Like I said my daughter Madison was featured in Dr Mouldens presentation, a doctor whom has extensive top of the class medical knowledge and experience. He spent his WHOLE adult life trying to save children. He has all the science you need to make better decisions for yourself and your children. Unfort because he was planning to squash the vaccine industry-had the proof to back it up and in turn call for a rather LARGE class action law suit he was turned away, gag ordered and they wanted to buy his work to keep it from getting to the public. Sounds crazy? Sounds like a fictitious Hollywood movie? Yes it does, however the fact of the matter is he refused to sell his work, and he refused to shut up. For 6yrs he went around the country to bring his knowledge to the people. Anyone who actually takes the time (including doc's, scientists, parents, and gov alike) cannot deny his truth but recognize they cannot go up against a giant corp without huge personal consequence. No one will go near it. But here we have a situation with your family- Medical background, law and whether you want to believe it or not your son IS a victim of ischemic strokes; you could really make a difference with a family like this. I know it wont be easy, to know that everything you've been taught and based your beliefs upon is a lie...but it will do no good continuing to live that lie instead of waking up (while you are still young, and your children still have a chance) and doing something really brilliant with your knowledge. I beg you to watch his presentations all the way through (theres a lot of science so it's boring in some sections) but if you can get through it you will be forever changed. I know you think "autism" isn't something that can come and go and you are right; autism isn't! BUT the autism label that we see today IS environmentally caused and when they are accompanied with the signs of strokes (mouth, eyes, tongue going to one side which I saw in photos of both your kids) ONLY STROKES can cause this to happen. Todays' autism IS caused by ischemia and like my daughter her behavior and neurological issues did subside after a period of not vaccinating. She was diagnosed with severe autism at 2yrs old, now you wouldn't know she ever had a neurological blow. She bright, top of her class and super social and lovable. Like what you now describe your son. However, like Chelsea said your WILL notice regression after you vaccinate for school... it's not a 50/50 its a 100% chance of this happening. So unless you see this as an opportunity to change what's happening to your kids and stop vaccinating then I hope after he does regress and you have to look at his cross eye, droopy mouth every day it will be enough to come to your senses and finally want to do something! PLEASE take the time to watch his work. He literally died a week before his 50th bday as a direct result of telling the truth. Lets not allow his death to be the end of his truth for all! Mel Novaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1762736094770946238.post-72784694637284871082013-11-29T08:08:05.731-08:002013-11-29T08:08:05.731-08:00http://www.executivereasoning.com/health/vac/tol_l...http://www.executivereasoning.com/health/vac/tol_lost_v2.html<br />http://www.executivereasoning.com/health/vac/tol_lost_v3.html<br />http://www.executivereasoning.com/health/vac/med_myst_solved.html<br /><br />There you all the SCIENCE you need to do something about the damage we are causing our children and this world as a whole. I don't expect to hear back from you for some time as there's a lot to learn. I suggest letting your whole family watch this brilliant doctor explain truth as plain as day to them also. Your husband has the potential to actual save children, I'm curious to see if you allow that to happen! Thank GOD; he's forgiving!Chelsea Renenoreply@blogger.com